Life daily article 25 Celebrities That You Forgot Committed Horrible Crimes Read more at: http://tr.im/ugANC. Inspired another rant, or rebuttal depending on who you are, about "cho mos" as we used to call them as kids. I can't help but believe if we rid the world of them a lot of our "issues" and addictions. I dare someone to tell me it wouldn't at least be worth a try. Prove me wrong, go ahead in mass numbers of test cases. Please.
Re: #10 ... Do your research... the song "It wasn't me" was by the performer Shaggy, not R. Kelly. The connection with the song (and joke) was that R. Kelly's defense in the court case was referred to as "The Shaggy Defense" because of the song. But he did not write or sing that song.
Kumail Alhassar
I don't think anyone "forgot" about these but instead aren't dwelling on it every minute of every day and using it to write these articles. And if you are saying "...in 1978..." how long exactly are we supposed to "remember his horrible crime" and not let him learn from his mistakes and move on? Sheesh!
Marvin Meeker ·
How about when 'Joe Average' is allowed to move on without being constantly taken to task for his past.
Bill Giers ·
If YOUR mother was raped and loved one was murdered, sexually assaulted... just how long would YOU remember?
Kumail Alhassar
Bill Giers - Well clearly Marvin Meeker and I were more than likely speaking about the less heinous crimes that were carelessly thrown in here with rape and attempted murder, but thanks for being so dramatic.
Bill Giers ·
Kumail Alhassar NO it wasn't clear and it is an example of YOUR upbringing to believe that rape and attempted murder is just being dramatic. Is your culture one where women are stoned to death in an honor killing if they are raped? PAST behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.
Kumail Alhassar
Bill Giers - you racist, presumptuous... wow. MY upbringing? You know NOTHING of my upbringing. I specifically referenced the case that stated "..1978.." No, my culture does not practice honor killings of women if they are raped. Rapists are punished and severely and swiftly. You are part of the problem with why people think all Muslims are terrorists and do not respect women. My wife happens to be an American Jew. And "PAST behavior predicts future behavior"? No one can change? So all of the people mentioned here went on to offend again and/or commit worse crimes? Did they keep offending? So that just shot a hole in that argument. You "sir", need a serious education in manners. Is your culture one in which you prejudge an entire people based on the actions of the extremists which are the ONLY ones that ever get news coverage and you don't bother to educate yourself enough to know the difference?
Kumail Alhassar
And which celebrity in this story murdered someone? I even went back and re-read the story and didn't see anyone convicted of murder. That's why I said you were being dramatic. You took an example of something that wasn't even in the story to make your comment.
Noah Logue ·
Matthew McConaughey's made me laugh so hard i just imagine him answering the cops with "alright alright alright".
Winston Tinubu ·
Driving without a licence is sooooooo horrific
Karen Wiebe Randall ·
I think RDJ, Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are getting a bad rap compared to the others.... They are just being used as filler. Addiction (a disease), dancing naked in your own home playing bongos or growing hemp in the backyard are hardly horrible crimes!!! Give us a break.
Laurence Thomas Josserand ·
I don't see any indication that Woody Harrelson or Matthew McConaughey were suffering from an "addiction". And even if they were this should be a private medical matter, and not a matter of criminal law, and, in and of itself, this is most certainly not a "horrible crime" - or any kind of "crime" for that matter.
What may have been a minor crime is the action of whoever spied on Woody Harrelson dancing naked in the privacy of his own home. I believe the slang term for such a person is a "peeping tom", and I think it's a minor crime in most American cities - but still not exactly a "horrible crime".
What may have been a minor crime is the action of whoever spied on Woody Harrelson dancing naked in the privacy of his own home. I believe the slang term for such a person is a "peeping tom", and I think it's a minor crime in most American cities - but still not exactly a "horrible crime".
Bill Giers ·
Addiction is NOT a disease. Name me any other disease where you "have to hit bottom" before you DECIDE to get better? It is a CHOICE. In a REAL disease even if you do not want to get well, the medicine or surgery works. Many SAY it is a disease because most addicts are adverse to personal responsibility and so cannot believe it is their choice. It is always someone or something else that MADE them do it. "My parents, life, school, mate, job were bad, Everyone/thing was against me." Just because lots of people say it does not make it true.
Jaime Jenkins Hendrickson
Bill Giers you really need to educate yourself on addiction. Addiction is a disease and is recognized by the AMA. It is not cured when you "decide to get better". You are never cured. You have to treat it the rest of your life. Addiction is a disease I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. There are good people who are addicts and there are bad people. Addiction doesn't discriminate. It has nothing to do with will power and whether you you take personal responsibility. It's not a choice. Who would choose to lose everything, to lose their children, their family, their freedom, their jobs. Who would choose to be homeless and alone and dirty and hungry and diseased.. Addiction isn't a big fun party, it's Hell. People who are addicted need compassion and help not judgement.
Steve Fischler
Bill Giers You need to do some reading on Addiction. It is recognized by the AMA as a disease, what more do you want?
You're entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't make it true.
Now do something constructive and educate yourself.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't make it true.
Now do something constructive and educate yourself.
Amanda Price ·
Jaime Jenkins Hendrickson I don't think you understand how a lot of people become addicts in the first place. I personally see it as weakness. People not being able to handle how truly horrible this world can be. Drugs make people feel better. They even take all the bad things going on in that persons life (whether its imagined, true, or exaggerated) and make them seem like its not a big deal or non-existent.
Are you saying people who some would call "lazy" have a disease? It's the same concept. What about people who can't save money very well and spend too much? we all know the consequences of spending too much yet some do it anyway. Some lose their houses, their spouses, etc.
Are you saying people who some would call "lazy" have a disease? It's the same concept. What about people who can't save money very well and spend too much? we all know the consequences of spending too much yet some do it anyway. Some lose their houses, their spouses, etc.
Barry Williams ·
Drugs change an addicts brain chemistry so that you are no longer dealing with the person, you are dealing with the brain driving the person ultimately to re-up on more drugs. It soon requires incredible strength of will to counter that drive, and few humans can do that every day all day until - usually - they "hit bottom", that is reach a point where either they fully succumb to the drug or they Marshall the non-addicted part of themselves to get help.
And yes, you need help FOREVER because we have not found a medical way to reverse the changes brought on by the addiction. That's probably partly because those who become addicted have a susceptibility to addiction in the first place - through no choice of their own, they're born that way. Their only chance is to stop using at the very beginning, before the addiction takes hold. That is VERY difficult except for those not inclined to indulge anyway. Unfortunately, in this society, it's very easy for certain people to miss that chance, because of easy access to drugs coupled with incentives to want to use (e.g celebrities, the rich, the poor, poweful politicians...to name some general categories).
And yes, you need help FOREVER because we have not found a medical way to reverse the changes brought on by the addiction. That's probably partly because those who become addicted have a susceptibility to addiction in the first place - through no choice of their own, they're born that way. Their only chance is to stop using at the very beginning, before the addiction takes hold. That is VERY difficult except for those not inclined to indulge anyway. Unfortunately, in this society, it's very easy for certain people to miss that chance, because of easy access to drugs coupled with incentives to want to use (e.g celebrities, the rich, the poor, poweful politicians...to name some general categories).
Suzanne Campbell
Bill Giers your logic is, well, illogical. "Addiction is NOT a disease... It is a CHOICE. In a REAL disease even if you do not want to get well, the medicine or surgery works."
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You can't be serious! So yes, it was a choice the first time or two or ten or whatever when they smoked, injected, snorted or swallowed their drug. So then you say that people who eat food with excessive fat in them or drinks that have lots of caffeine in them or medicines to help one disease or condition cause them to be stricken with another... their disease doesn't count or should be belittled because they CHOSE to eat/drink/take the aforementioned?
"In a REAL disease even if you do not want to get well the medicine or surgery works"? Really?" You have documentation to back up such an empirically stated fact?
"Many SAY it is a disease because most addicts are adverse to personal responsibility and so cannot believe it is their choice."
And the naivete continutes... seriously, dude? So all of those times my friends cried on my shoulder were figments of my imagination? When I see them again (I have to wait a bit, seeing as they are dead), I'll be sure to clarify that those crying episodes were real.
"It is always someone or something else that MADE them do it. "My parents, life, school, mate, job were bad, Everyone/thing was against me." Just because lots of people say it does not make it true."
Wow. That last sentence was *exactly* what I was about to throw back in your face! Yeah, to that point, you need to stop getting your information from Celebrity Rehab, Dr. Phil... just reality TV/talk shows in general. People who make rash generalizations about a group of people based on prejudicial propaganda are just as bad as the most heinous, horrible junkie (who I would really only label so if they resorted to crime and violence to support their habits).
(pause for laughter)
You can't be serious! So yes, it was a choice the first time or two or ten or whatever when they smoked, injected, snorted or swallowed their drug. So then you say that people who eat food with excessive fat in them or drinks that have lots of caffeine in them or medicines to help one disease or condition cause them to be stricken with another... their disease doesn't count or should be belittled because they CHOSE to eat/drink/take the aforementioned?
"In a REAL disease even if you do not want to get well the medicine or surgery works"? Really?" You have documentation to back up such an empirically stated fact?
"Many SAY it is a disease because most addicts are adverse to personal responsibility and so cannot believe it is their choice."
And the naivete continutes... seriously, dude? So all of those times my friends cried on my shoulder were figments of my imagination? When I see them again (I have to wait a bit, seeing as they are dead), I'll be sure to clarify that those crying episodes were real.
"It is always someone or something else that MADE them do it. "My parents, life, school, mate, job were bad, Everyone/thing was against me." Just because lots of people say it does not make it true."
Wow. That last sentence was *exactly* what I was about to throw back in your face! Yeah, to that point, you need to stop getting your information from Celebrity Rehab, Dr. Phil... just reality TV/talk shows in general. People who make rash generalizations about a group of people based on prejudicial propaganda are just as bad as the most heinous, horrible junkie (who I would really only label so if they resorted to crime and violence to support their habits).
Tami Tillman ·
Barry Williams and whomever else has taken to tearing down Bill Giers for having a "take responsibility for your actions" attitude in a world full of people who won't. Have you not heard about the rehab in Malibu, rich kids' dad wrote a book, opened a fancy rehab he can run and they do cure addiction. Which actually at least those people have taken the high road and refuse to call themselves addicts which is better than crying you can't help yourself. Come on we live in a world that seriously created a drug for shift change disorder......I had to hear the ad 5 or 6 times to believe it was not a joke. REALLY, you can't adjust to working varied shifts and need a pill? your mom should have whooped your butt and told you to get a damn clue and a job. Stop talking about others you don't know and stand up for something meaningful. Lord knows how many Marines we may have lost bickering over business that isn't ours.. I have an idea, lets all ban together and rid the world of child molesters, child porn, and I bet the rest of our issues will fade with them. or at least we would have a good handle on what is horrible. pick up your pitchforks people, you'll be so busy ridding the earth that you won't have time to hate each other and gossip. I promise.
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